Is It Worth It To Repair Lg Plasma Tv?
| A pocket-size topic of marital discord: Just married/moving/etc., and we have a surplus of TV'south. I've ditched my aging 62 inch DLP, wife has a smaller (fifty-inch category) Panasonic DLP, and a Visio 46 inch or then LED. Meanwhile, I besides have a not-working 50 inch Panasonic Plasma. A friend owned it, tried to "tweak something" and it stopped working. I've taken the back panel off, tin can get it to go into maintenance mode, so information technology shuts off. With nuptials/motion/etc., I've not had fourth dimension to dig into it much further than that. The wife'south DLP is older, and starting to prove its age. She's arguing to replace information technology with the Visio LED, I'yard trying to decide if it is worth spending a piffling $$ to accept the plasma repaired. From what the friend told me, it sounds similar he tried to tweak one of the potentiometer's, came back to it later, and couldn't remember which ane he'd adjusted, and gave up. (one of the kinds of guys who tries to tweak everything they ain, but doesn't know how to use a multimeter while doing it). Thoughts? I know this is a little disjointed, I guess my question is, how much $$ would information technology be worth sinking into an older, but good status Panny plasma, vs. just putting the Visio on the stand and calling it a day? I'chiliad definitely much more the movie nut, wife is more of the "a screen is a screen" types. |
| yous practise whatever maximizes your wife'due south happiness. she suggests the vizio? vizio it is. |
| Panny plasmas are pretty like shooting fish in a barrel to work on -- just need a screwdriver and multimeter, no soldering skills required (if you're willing to buy refurbished circuit boards). |
| Hehe. Suspected at least one answer forth those lines To exist fair - she's said she doesn't particularly care, she just doesn't desire me to spend much $$ on it. Ergo, trying to find out how much information technology would be worth spending in the eyes of the fora. |
| Thanks Richard - that's my impression, just simply in a "no time to bargain with it myself". The "honey-do" listing is rather long, between setting up new house, prepping my old identify to rent, finishing move, clearing out garage enough for wife to park her car, etc. If it were up to me, I'd just stick it in the utility room and work on it when I had the fourth dimension, simply I think that in her optics, to go along it, I need to actually have it working. |
| Just to put concrete figures on it: I'm a total electronics dummy, just I fixed mine in nigh 30min with $50 of parts. The hardest part was earthworks upwards the service manual from a 300-page AVSForum thread, then waiting a calendar week for the new P-board to arrive without damaging the giant disassembled pile in my living room. Utterly failed on the latter front, ending up with a nicely scratch-north-dented bezel, only hey it adds character. |
| Thanks. From the niggling my friend told me, I don't even know if information technology needs new parts vs. merely calibration. I think he bought information technology used for cheap, said it had "green dots". He found an AVSForum thread on how to deal with the dots, said he got rid of them, then got distracted, and adjusted the wrong pot, and now it won't stay powered up. I can forcefulness information technology into any Panny calls their "diagnostic" way, so verified that the console is good, only then it shuts down. I'thou guessing something on the power supply. Friend was so frustrated he wanted to take it out and smash it with a hammer, only I was able to convince him that HIS wife would like $50 more than than broken drinking glass all over the dorsum yard. Only and so it sat in my basement without enough time to tweak it earlier I moved, which brings u.s. to the present moment |
| Chances are information technology's bad caps on the power supply board, simply the main PCBs have power converters scattered around, which may also be suffering. A visual inspection of the capacitors is commonly enough to find the error. |
| I've got a l" Panny Plasma myself, about four years old now (probably among the last ones manufactured). Information technology sucks that they stopped making them. Yes they're hot, but y'all only can't get those blacks on an LCD console. What's the life expectancy on those BTW? |
| I've got a 50" Panny Plasma myself, nearly four years old now (probably among the final ones manufactured). Information technology sucks that they stopped making them. Yeah they're hot, but you lot merely can't get those blacks on an LCD panel. What's the life expectancy on those BTW? Mine is either from 2007 or 2008, I tin't call back. I seem to remember that one of the menus tells you how long it's been on; I can mail that when I become domicile. The only upshot I have is that if the OTA antenna is plugged in, the Goggle box powers off afterwards a few seconds (regardless of whether the TV is currently displaying broadcast or not). Information technology's apparently a relatively common issue because I found it while searching for possible causes. I would accept never take guessed that having something plugged in to it could have acquired that. |
| Quote: I seem to remember that i of the menus tells you how long it's been on; I can post that when I get home. I would dear for this to be a thing. My plasma is from 2008 as well. |
| I hope y'all can get it stock-still on the cheap. It'll be a sad damn day in my habitation if/when my Panasonic Plasma goes belly up. Perhaps I've been spoiled, only watching movies at home without blackness crush and a smooth, moving-picture show-like quality makes information technology very hard for me to sentinel movies at friends' houses. The TVs seem so bright (for lack of a improve discussion). Maybe artificial is the give-and-take I'm looking for. The just thing I don't similar is that Netflix and Chromecast similar to exit elements on the screen that wouldn't cause burn in on LCDs but is a PITA for the plasmas. Thankfully the Panasonic plasmas accept something in the menus to fix that. If you do fix information technology, mail service pictures! |
| I've got a 50" Panny Plasma myself, about 4 years old at present (probably among the final ones manufactured). It sucks that they stopped making them. Yes they're hot, but y'all just tin can't get those blacks on an LCD panel. What'southward the life expectancy on those BTW? I have a 2008 TH46PZ800U with 27,000+ hours on it. The panel is rated for 100,000 hours and then its just nigh broken in. |
| If nada else, I think this thread has given me enough ammo to say that if I can't fix it, information technology isn't getting tossed, but will get passed on to another plasma lover |
| If nothing else, I think this thread has given me enough ammo to say that if I tin can't fix information technology, it isn't getting tossed, simply will get passed on to some other plasma lover Yeah, that'south the way to go. Now that y'all have your wife to think nearly, along with her need for uncluttered space, I'd get rid of everything that doesn't work. While even that DLP gear up can probably be cleaned (The mirrors collect dust. Clean that, and things will look similar new once again), I would still get rid of information technology and consolidate on i or two LCD sets - something 50-60" for the living room and something 30-40" for the bedchamber. |
| ^^ Yeah. The TV is 1 of the only things I'm trying to hang onto - was basically my dream prepare, just haven't had time to work on it. Meanwhile, I actively dislike Television receiver'south in the chamber, and she doesn't care too much, so we'll probably move the Visio down to the den, but IF I can get the plasma working, and then she can go on the Visio upstairs and nosotros'll both exist happy. Life lesson: Living on your own, you tin have as many "projects" every bit you lot desire. Living with someone who values an uncluttered habitation and garage = You'd better finish those projects FAST |
| ^^ Yep. The Television is one of the only things I'grand trying to hang onto - was basically my dream fix, only oasis't had time to work on information technology. Meanwhile, I actively dislike Boob tube's in the bedroom, and she doesn't care also much, so nosotros'll probably move the Visio down to the den, but IF I can become the plasma working, and then she can continue the Visio upstairs and we'll both exist happy. Life lesson: Living on your own, you can have every bit many "projects" as yous want. Living with someone who values an uncluttered home and garage = You lot'd meliorate finish those projects FAST Yes, having a partner completely changes your domicile life. I've been there, got over it, and now am not sure I'd get back once again. I'grand the same manner about Goggle box in the bedroom. While I have a computer with a 32" monitor in the sleeping room, information technology's set up then that I tin't really see it from the bed. And then the bed half of the master bedroom is Idiot box-less, and the role half of the room is dedicated to reckoner utilize. I like it better that way, because information technology keeps the psychological separation of sleepy time and fun/piece of work time. |
| you do whatever maximizes your wife's happiness. she suggests the vizio? vizio information technology is. This is the right answer. If you can't set it or it dies shortly afterwards you set it, you will be blamed by her. That and the last thing you want in the housing move/consolidation is more crap around and things to practise. Plus the cheapest time to buy a new Television receiver is the month leading up to Black Fri (prices actually increase on Blackness Friday and steadily enhance up through the Super Bowl and March Madness). Wait some screaming deals on this years LG OLEDs as the prices are finally down to reasonable levels and they blow the doors off the best Panasonic or Pioneer Kuro panel ever made. I hope you can get it fixed on the cheap. It'll exist a sad damn day in my home if/when my Panasonic Plasma goes belly up. A modernistic mid-range FLAD panel LCD TV volition blow the doors off your electric current set or fifty-fifty a Pioneer Kuro, never mind the LG OLED panels. Information technology's amusing watching the Kuro cult non accept reality. Maybe I've been spoiled, but watching movies at home without black crush and a smooth, film-like quality makes information technology very difficult for me to sentinel movies at friends' houses. The TVs seem and then bright (for lack of a better word). Maybe artificial is the word I'g looking for. Most TVs mid-range and upwards TVs these days ship with a pretty decent depression-ish Delta-E mill calibration, but it won't exist the default option and you'll all the same need to plough the backlight down a scrap. It will be under something like "Cinema", "Calibrated Night", "Warm", whatever. Sadly, waaay also many people like diddled out colors and heavy blueish shift, and then TVs frequently ship that mode in some kind of torch style (Samsung I'm looking at you...). Seriously, don't buy a Samsung Idiot box, or anything Samsung for that thing. Ask any embedded software developer most Samsung and you're likely to get punched in the face up. Exploding washing machines anyone? |
| Just wondering, what kind of over 65 inch Boob tube would you recommend these days? Looking for 75 and up in the "normal" price range (pregnant no 10K and up sets) |
| Quote: don't buy a Samsung Boob tube, or anything Samsung for that matter. ...similar an iPhone? |
| But wondering, what kind of over 65 inch Television would you recommend these days? Looking for 75 and up in the "normal" price range (significant no 10K and upwardly sets) If I had the money to spend, I'd get an OLED TV. The LG sets are looking very dainty right now, simply that's a $three,700 set at 65 inches. In the more bourgeois price range, 4K HDR is a real treat. I like the Sony HDR sets. I bought a 52" XBR a few months agone, and I'm pretty happy with it. My only complaint is that the Android stuff can stick its nose in more than I'd like - just I think that'south going to become a problem with all new TV's, since finding a non-smart TV is about similar finding a unicorn, these days. |
| Only wondering, what kind of over 65 inch TV would yous recommend these days? Looking for 75 and up in the "normal" price range (meaning no 10K and upward sets) Sony XBR 900E-serial. For 55"/65" LG OLED, obviously. Quote: don't purchase a Samsung Tv set, or anything Samsung for that affair. ...similar an iPhone? Their chip manufacturing business concern seems to put out a quality product, it'southward just Samsung'southward own Samsung-branded complete products that have (many...) issues. Here'due south an example of their current display build quality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DBzfkP9w0s How about ome of the worst software many a programmer has e'er seen? Exploding washing machines anyone? Everybody loved those exploding batteries made by Samsung's own in-house battery unit. I could go on... |
| Samsung makes so much stuff in and so much quantity that some number of them is bound to have trouble, but because of the sheer volume. Samsung SDI's batteries were fine (and Samsung SDI is regarded, forth with LG, to make the finest lithium ions on the market). The Annotation vii itself was too small for them. The replacements from the tertiary political party manufacturer were the defective ones, mostly considering they were made in a hell of a bustle. You can sling such accusations at any visitor and they'll stick. Exploding iPhones. iOS updates bricking phones. Lenovo laptops with a broken document concatenation. HP laptops with a keylogger. Macbook Pros with a shoddy chipset. Macbook Airs overheating. Surface Pros with a defective digitizer. That'southward not even with a unproblematic search for "%Brand% recall" or "%BRAND% class action", which will become dozens of hits for any well known make. |
| True enough, and things like their component and industrial stuff is just fine, but their consumer electronics and white goods divisions certainly seem to have issues, which is what most consumers recall of when they hear "Samsung". Everybody cranks out crap from time to time, but you certainly seem to be getting it with some oddly loftier frequency lately from Samsung vs other big companies similar LG, GE, Whirlpool, Sony, Matsushita/Panasonic, et al. I've run across numerous mentions in passing of Samsung'due south consumer goods management intentionally pushing out under-engineered products in a mad rush to run across unrealistic timetables, plus with all-encompassing 11th hr changes for good mensurate, which seems to be the root cause here. Samsung'southward poor software quality has been a known matter for at to the lowest degree a decade and seems to exist from a combination of massive decentralization, gross mismanagement, and incompetence. |
| You lot know... all the Samsung-hate kind of confuses me. I've had several Samsung TVs, and they've all been excellent. Of all the things Samsung makes, their televisions and LCD panels seem to be some of the best out in that location. Even my "Black Friday" set up I bought like 8 years ago has been slap-up and will shortly be passed on to another family fellow member. I won't buy some other Milky way smartphone ever, just in my experience, their TV stuff is a completely different story. |
| Quote: I seem to recall that 1 of the menus tells you how long information technology'due south been on; I can mail service that when I go abode. I would honey for this to be a thing. My plasma is from 2008 also. I somewhen constitute how to become this - it's subconscious in a service menu. If the counter is right, I only have a bit over v,000 hours on it (unless it rolled over; the counter is only 5 digits). The sticker on the back says it was made in Nov 2007 so it'southward even older than I idea. I followed these instructions with the slight modification of using the Retrieve button since my remote doesn't have Info. |
| OK. "I'm an idiot" response... Anyone think their response would change if the unit in question wasn't a Panasonic, but a Pioneer? I swear my brain is fried... Pioneer PDP-5050SX, to exist precise. |
| Pioneer PDP-5050SX, to be precise. Run. It's a 1280x768 native panel, more than a decade old, and wasn't that great even when it was new. |
| Run++ |
| wife was right all along |
| Still better than hers... |
| Just wondering, what kind of over 65 inch Television set would you recommend these days? Looking for 75 and up in the "normal" toll range (meaning no 10K and upward sets) If I had the money to spend, I'd go an OLED Television. The LG sets are looking very dainty right at present, just that's a $3,700 ready at 65 inches. In the more conservative price range, 4K HDR is a real care for. I like the Sony HDR sets. I bought a 52" XBR a few months ago, and I'thou pretty happy with it. My but complaint is that the Android stuff tin stick its nose in more I'd similar - simply I recall that'south going to become a trouble with all new Television receiver'due south, since finding a non-smart Tv set is nearly like finding a unicorn, these days. I have a 65 inch plasma correct now and if I upgrade it volition only exist to a 75 inch or above, no point in upgrading to another 65 inch TV. |
| A modern mid-range FLAD console LCD TV will blow the doors off your current set or even a Pioneer Kuro, never mind the LG OLED panels. It's agreeable watching the Kuro cult not accept reality. This isn't entirely truthful. For example, there isn't an LCD panel in being that will accept a better accented contrast ratio than a Pioneer Kuro merely because its black level is much lower than any LCD console tin can accomplish. Of form, modern LCD/OLED panels can get much, much brighter which helps in almost every dwelling that doesn't have a windowless theater room. I've been waffling on getting an LCD console to replace my plasma simply considering meliorate contrast always draws my eye over maximum brightness. OLED panels are undoubtedly better in virtually every attribute, but I'm still waiting for a sub-$2500 65" before I buy. |
| HDR content is an area where I'd bet fifty-fifty in a dark room any plasma would be diddled abroad by a ~1K brand-new LCD on certain scenes. Depends on what you value more, brights/colors or night darks - but even the best plasma I had (Panasonic 2022-era, haven't seen a Kuro in person) struggles to hitting true black with the lights all out, unlike the best CRTs or my OLED. Hell, HDR is making me wish I'd waited longer instead of getting the 2022 model year LG OLED as its brights just aren't that bright. End of this year, or sometime next year may be a good fourth dimension to bound to a newer 65"... Viewing angles kill me with LCDs, though, as a living-room Television set thing, but I'm thinking of i for a gaming/HDR movie TV in a spare room. |
| This isn't entirely true. For case, there isn't an LCD panel in existence that will have a amend absolute contrast ratio than a Pioneer Kuro simply because its black level is much lower than any LCD console can attain. Of form, modern LCD/OLED panels tin can go much, much brighter which helps in almost every dwelling house that doesn't take a windowless theater room. FALD is the key word hither, aka full array local dimming. You can easily beat a meridian-end Kuro when the LCD's backlight isn't fifty-fifty lit at all. OLED panels are undoubtedly better in virtually every aspect, just I'one thousand withal waiting for a sub-$2500 65" before I buy. We may just see that this year in the month leading upward to Black Fri from 3rd political party sellers on eBay, but I would wait for the 2022 models personally as that's when HDMI 2.1 with its variable refresh charge per unit arrives, plus the OLED panels themselves should be fifty-fifty brighter. |
| A modern mid-range FLAD panel LCD Telly will blow the doors off your current gear up or fifty-fifty a Pioneer Kuro, never mind the LG OLED panels. It's amusing watching the Kuro cult not accept reality. This isn't entirely true. For example, there isn't an LCD panel in being that volition have a amend accented dissimilarity ratio than a Pioneer Kuro simply because its blackness level is much lower than whatsoever LCD panel can achieve. Of course, modern LCD/OLED panels can get much, much brighter which helps in almost every home that doesn't have a windowless theater room. OLED panels go equally night every bit plasma panels as each pixel is an emitter and in that location is no backlight simply like plasma. OLED is not like LCD. |
| FALD is the key word here, aka full array local dimming. You lot tin easily vanquish a tiptop-end Kuro when the LCD's backlight isn't fifty-fifty lit at all. In that location's still some coarseness to the lighting control of FALD, particularly if the the zone count is likewise low for the panel size. It'due south only when you get to OLED that have i:one mapping of pixels and lighting. And then you have something that can clearly all-time a quality plasma. |
| There'south all the same some coarseness to the lighting control of FALD, especially if the the zone count is too low for the console size. It'southward only when yous become to OLED that take one:1 mapping of pixels and lighting. And and so you accept something that tin clearly best a quality plasma. While technically true, panels with a large number of zones are thankfully a matter from the likes of Vizio and Sony. The low ambient light functioning of nicer FALD LCDs are such that you lot need to be in a dim enough room that you may too get projector. OLED, on the other hand, but doesn't (all the same) accept the peak or sustained nits do to proper HDR (which got their own OLED-specific gimped HDR standard), but still way beyond any CRT or plasma. There'due south some good engineering papers out there from the likes of SMPTE, SpectraCal, Technicolor, Dolby, et al. if y'all want to get looking for them. |
| UN1Xnut in your opinion is it worth to upgrade from Panasonic TC-P60GT50 60-Inch plasma to Sony XBR75X900E 75-Inch I like large screens and I doubt I will encounter a 75 inch OLED for under 4K whatsoever time shortly. |
| Okay, and then I'm withdrawing my recommendation of the Sony XBR smart Television set's. I don't utilise my Idiot box all that much, but over the concluding few days, Android (or its apps) have been crashing pretty regularly. This wouldn't be so bad if information technology was limited to merely the "smart" function of the Goggle box, merely last night, a service crashed and took over the whole screen, while I was watching a evidence via HDMI! App crashes should never, ever interfere with the monitor part of a smart device; that this is allowed to happen is inexcusable. My next ready will not be "smart", even if that means I have to pay more than for a "monitor," instead of a "television receiver." |
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